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Friday, June 27, 2008

Oil Up Again - Great Oil Story in USA Today

All,

Here is a very thourough article on Oil and speculation as an investment tool. We have discussed this issue before, and the USA Today hits it on the head. The article should be required reading at the gas pump to educate Americans on what would really help ease the pressure on the Oil markets, and what speculators really do. Speculation is hardly ever as evil as it sounds. Read through to the end, and you will see the solution we have talked about and that I support big time: Change the margin requirement for investing in futures. It works for small stocks and option calls, it will work for futures.

U.S.News & World Report
6 Myths About Oil Speculators
Friday June 27, 10:44 am ET
By Rick Newman

So now we know who's really responsible for $4 gas. Finger-pointers from Washington, the International Monetary Fund, and even Saudi Arabia no longer seem to buy the idea that the demand for oil around the world is simply growing faster than the supply, driving prices to record highs close to $140 per barrel. There must be a more nefarious reason, it seems. So now entering this drama is a villain everybody can hate: The Evil Speculator.

At recent congressional hearings, politicians and energy experts argued that speculators have artificially added $30 or more to the cost of a barrel of oil, turned oil trading into a global poker game, and doubled the price of gasoline practically overnight.

But who are these party crashers? Where did they come from? How are they doing this? And who can stop them? We'd all like to see a superhero swoop in and smite the speculators, saving Gotham from the peril of $4 gas. The only problem is, speculators aren't quite the bogeymen that politicians want us to think--and they even play an important role in the oil markets and the global economy. Some major misconceptions:

Speculators are inherently bad for the economy. There's no doubt that speculators are out to make money, by buying a commodity like oil (or gold, or real estate) when they think the price is likely to rise and they'll be able to sell for a profit. But they also help sustain the market for buyers and sellers and provide ways for individuals and businesses to offset risks.

Many companies, for instance, want to lock in the price they're going to pay down the road for petroleum products and other supplies they need to run their businesses. So they make agreements with suppliers on a price they'll pay next year, or the year after, when they actually take possession of the oil. Buying and selling such "futures contracts" makes these companies speculators by definition, since they're placing a bet on the future price of oil.

Companies doing this kind of hedging include gasoline refiners, airlines, shipping companies, and others that spend a lot on fuel or petroleum. Often they use investment banks or other intermediaries to arrange the deals. They might be gambling, but this kind of speculation actually helps companies run their businesses more smoothly, and if they guess right on future prices, it may give them a competitive advantage against other companies that don't plan as prudently.

There's a Speculator Star Chamber somewhere. Global markets are so abstruse to ordinary folks that it's easy to imagine a cabal of evil geniuses pulling the levers from some fortified complex in London or Geneva. But that's the Hollywood version. "The market is so competitive that that's nonsense," says Bob Hodrick, a finance professor at Columbia Business School. "There's no way for everyone to communicate and get together and say, 'We're going to buy and drive the price up.' " There are thousands of investors around the world placing bets every day on whether oil prices will go up or down--and they have no way of knowing who their fellow speculators are. All they know is the current price, shown on a computer monitor, plus whatever their own research tells them.

Speculators are super-rich market manipulators. Certainly some are super-rich, including investors in sovereign wealth funds from Middle Eastern and Asian nations. But new data show that many oil speculators these days may be big pension and index funds that invest on behalf of ordinary working Americans. These huge investment funds have typically invested in equities, but in recent years they've been adding commodities--including oil--to their portfolios as a way to diversify.

Even if the commodity portion of these portfolios is just 3 or 4 percent, that can trigger big swings in the oil markets, where most investors up till now have been smaller players. "There's no malice or manipulation here," says Ed Krapels, an analyst with the research firm Energy Security Analysis. But the entry of such big institutional investors into the oil market could definitely contribute to rising prices, especially since they tend to buy and hold securities like futures contracts, instead of quickly selling--which contributes to scarcity and rising prices.

The government tracks speculators and knows who they are. Part of the reason nobody's really sure what effect speculators have on the oil markets is a lack of information. Exchanges like the New York Mercantile Exchange track the activities of their members, but even then, a trader could be a speculator one day, buying oil or futures contracts, and a seller the next day: Nobody checks a "speculator" box when making a trade.

A recent study by the federal Commodity Futures Trading Commission, which regulates commodities markets, found a big increase in the percentage of speculators buying oil contracts for investment purposes--"paper barrels"--instead of buying because they need the oil. But oil markets are less regulated than markets for stocks or bonds, and there's still a lot that's unknown. Congress has ordered more studies, with new regulation likely as well.

Speculators are creating a huge bubble in oil. We've just seen a bubble pop in the housing market, with home values now plummeting. And before that, the tech bubble inflated, then burst. But the run-up in oil prices is probably different. The housing boom was generated by cheap and, in some cases, fraudulent mortgages, not by a huge increase in the number of people who needed housing. The tech boom was similar to old-fashioned manias, where investors raced in hoping to cash in on a gold rush and bid the price of technology shares way above their inherent value.

But in the oil markets, there is in fact growing demand because of strong Asian economies. And supply is fairly fixed for now, since adding more oil to the market means finding new sources and spending billions to extract it, not just opening a spigot a little wider. "There are pretty strong fundamentals behind this run-up," says Sarah Emerson, another analyst at Energy Security Analysis. Speculators may be pushing oil prices somewhat higher than they would otherwise be--but a bust similar to housing or tech stocks seems unlikely.

Speculators should be banned. Few, if any, economists or energy analysts advocate this. In fact, some fairly modest regulatory changes could bring greater transparency to oil markets and force them to operate more like stock and bond markets. Buying a contract for oil futures, for instance, typically requires the buyer to put down less than 10 percent of the value of the contract; the rest can be borrowed. That allows buyers to roll up big stakes with relatively little cash. Raising the "margin requirement" to 50 percent, the usual threshold for stocks, would cool demand for oil futures, while still keeping the speculators in business. And maybe get the witch hunters off their case.

Tijs

On 6/11/08, Tijs Limburg <tijis311@gmail.com> wrote:

Well, it looks like Cramer agrees with Bill O'Rielly that the margin for trading in oil and commodities is too low. I happen to agree. Any time you can buy on cheap margins, made especially cheap in the last 6 months with low interest rates, the low margin markets will move up very fast. I think these investors ought to be required to supply 80% to 90% of the capital up front, and only buy 10% to 20% on margin.

Changing the margin rates would deflate all of these markets overnight. High margin expectations works very well at controlling the volatile "less-than-ten-dollar" stocks from going completely haywire, because you cannot buy them on margin without supplying a large percentage of capital up front.

Time for a market change. I think that 10 years ago, we didn't have to worry about putting in these types of restrictions in commodities, because hardly any small or individual players were in them. Now that they are all computerized and easy to access by anyone with a discount brokerage account, the system has been broken.

In the late 80's and early 90's, "curbs" were introduced into the markets because computerized trading led to the stock market crash of '87. Looks to me like computers, easy "democratized" access, and large money movement from institutional traders who lost billions in the financial industry recently, have combined to form a perfect storm for a broken commodities market.

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Cramer: The Oil Market Is Broken

Jim Cramer

06/10/08 - 05:23 PM EDT

This column was first published on RealMoney at 2:04 p.m., June 10, 2008. For more commentary on today's action from the RealMoney writers, click here for a free trial.

Every market's so thin here and so easily pushed around by derivatives and aggressive buying and selling that it's hard to trust any prices. Does anyone believe that some large buyer of oil paid up $10 the other day? Does anyone think that a major airline or a energy user came in and said, "Buy 200,000 barrels of oil with a $10 limit"?

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Tuesday, June 24, 2008

Fwd: Your Letter to the Editor Ran Today

Concrete better than asphalt

Published: June 24, 2008

UDOT recently sent me a notice stating that they would be repaving the Van Winkle Expressway by my house in asphalt. Why continue to pave in asphalt when oil is at record highs? Asphalt is oil based, lasts three to four times less than concrete and takes five times more fuel per mile to lay.

Concrete is less prone to potholes, has a new lower cost relative to asphalt, is not subject to the volatile oil market and will decrease the pollution created by the machinery needed for paving.

We are setting precedent with new bridge installation techniques, let's set the trend for the next decade in road paving and be a greener state at the same time.

Tijs Limburg

Murray

Thursday, June 19, 2008

Re: FW: MCCAIN SCORES WITH OFFSHORE DRILLING PROPOSAL

All,

The Greatest Generation of military officials got it right in WWII when they decided to make a fake army commanded by Patton that fooled the Germans into thinking the Normandy Invasions would happen at Calais. By the time the Nazi tank commander General Rommel got word that his panzer division was in the wrong place to thwart any invasion, it was too late, and the rest is history. The 3rd Army swept across France, pounded through the "Bulge", and liberated Europe by marching into Berlin.

Morris is right in his opinion that the energy situation is like a Pearl Harbor. The problem has been brewing for decades, and is now reaching destructive levels.

In this situation, I find it funny that the Dems are showing their lack of economic, business, and strategic - even diplomatic prowess on this issue by rejecting McCain's and Bush's bid to promote more offshore drilling.

As I see it, the way to beat the market in commodities (short of instituting new margin regulations on the commodities exchanges which I support, but that is a different matter) is by playing the short game that works so well in driving down prices in every bid-ask type of market.

First, a little lesson in shorting stocks or real estate. The way it works is that you "loan" the property to the person who is going to buy it, hoping that the person who buys will end up selling it back to you at a lower price. You therefore make money on the spread between the higher short-sale price and the lower buy-to-cover price when the property is returned to you. Keep in mind that the fundamental reason a stock or property declines in value is because an increase of stock or similar property enters the market. Once the excess property enters the market and the price is lowered, you cover or "close" your trade at a lower price. It is a very effective tool in keeping prices in check and putting pressure on them, keeping them from rising too fast.

Just as Dick Morris states in his article, one of the biggest factors in driving up the price other than hundreds of billions of dollars added to the commodities markets in recent years is Saudi Arabia's (and OPEC as a whole) lowered production levels. Production is at a 3% decline rate per year since 2005 in those countries.

So the question is how would you convince the OPEC nations to step up production in a short (inverse) market?

The answer is to threaten increase in domestic production. It is like a bluff in betting when you are sure you have the winning hand. Since the market is ripe for shorting (good short markets are created as prices rise continually out of step with fundamentals), the US would have the winning hand because we are one of the biggest consumers of the product. By threatening an increase in production, the OPEC nations would be forced to either lower prices to stave off any domestic production increases, or to "call our bluff" and wait and see if we would really start drilling.

The OPEC nations would surely not call our bet (The US would surely start drilling if forced to by high prices), and would want to keep our business by lowering prices.

So, why don't the Dems play along and why don't our government officials meet in closed committee meetings and decide together that they would never really start drilling unless the bluff was called, and then announce that they have unilaterally decided to start exploration and drilling? Imagine the economic turnaround in lower energy prices and increases in jobs (including jobs to man oil rigs) that would create!

See how that is like a short-sale? Either way, we will end up buying the oil at a lower cost than it is now, either because OPEC increases the amount of oil to market, or because we do it ourselves.

Tijs

MCCAIN SCORES WITH OFFSHORE DRILLING PROPOSAL

By DICK MORRIS & EILEEN MCGANN

Published on FOXNews.com on June 18, 2008.

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John McCain has drawn first blood in the political debate following
Barack Obama's victory in the primaries. His call yesterday for offshore
oil drilling - and Bush's decision to press the issue in Congress - puts
the Democrats in the position of advocating the wear-your-sweater
policies that made Jimmy Carter unpopular.

With gas prices nearing $5, all of the previous shibboleths need to be
discarded. Where once voters in swing states like Florida opposed
offshore drilling, the high gas prices are prompting them to reconsider.
McCain's argument that even hurricane Katrina did not cause any oil
spills from the offshore rigs in the Gulf of Mexico certainly will go
far to allay the fears of the average voter.

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development and new oil drilling. But the recent shock of a massive
surge in oil and gasoline prices has awakened the nation from its
complaisance. The soaring prices are the equivalent of Pearl Harbor in
jolting us out of our trance when it comes to energy.

Suddenly, everything is on the table. Offshore drilling, Alaska
drilling, nuclear power, wind, solar, flex-fuel cars, plug-in cars are
all increasingly attractive options and John McCain seems alive to the
need to go there while Obama is strangely passive. During the Democratic
primary, he opposed a gas tax holiday and continues to be against
offshore and Alaska drilling and squishy on nuclear power. That leaves
turning down your thermostat and walking to work as the Democratic
policies.

McCain has also been ratcheting up his attacks on oil speculators. With
the total value of trades in oil futures soaring from $13 billion in
2003 to $260 billion today, it is increasingly clear that it is not the
supply and demand for oil which is, alone, driving up the price, but it
is the supply and demand for oil futures which is stoking the upward
movement.

The Saudis have made a fatal mistake in not forcing down the price of
oil. We could have gone for decades as their hostage, letting their
control over our oil supplies choke us while enriching them. But they
got greedy and let the price skyrocket. The sudden shock which has sent
America reeling is just the stimulus we need for a massive movement away
from imported oil and toward new types of cars.

The political will for major change in our energy policy is now here and
those, like Obama, who don't get it need to rethink their positions. To
quote FDR, "this great nation calls for action and action now" on the
energy issue. What has been a back-burner problem now has moved onto
center stage and McCain has put himself in the forefront.

The Democratic ambivalence stems from liberal concerns about climate
change. The Party basically doesn't believe in carbon based energy and,
therefore, opposes oil exploration. That's why Obama pushes the windfall
profits tax on oil companies - a step that tells them "you drill, you
find oil, and we'll take away your profits." But Americans have their
priorities in order: more oil, more drilling AND alternative energy
sources, flex-fuel cars, plug in vehicles and nuclear power.

With his willingness to respond to the gas price crisis with bold
measures, McCain shows himself to be a pragmatist while Obama comes off
as an ideologue to puts climate change ahead of making it possible for
the average American to get to work.

Of course, the high price of gas makes it inevitable that the US will
lead the world in fighting climate change. With $5 gas, Americans will
switch en masse to cars that burn less gasoline. Already we have cut our
oil consumption by 500,000 barrels a day in the past year (about a 3%
cut). The move away from oil will be exponential from here on out,
dooming radical Islam and reversing climate change at the same time. But
while we are getting new cars, we need more oil and McCain has flanked
Obama on this issue. Big time.

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Wednesday, June 11, 2008

Jim Cramer: The Oil Market Is Broken

Well, it looks like Cramer agrees with Bill O'Rielly that the margin for trading in oil and commodities is too low. I happen to agree. Any time you can buy on cheap margins, made especially cheap in the last 6 months with low interest rates, the low margin markets will move up very fast. I think these investors ought to be required to supply 80% to 90% of the capital up front, and only buy 10% to 20% on margin.

Changing the margin rates would deflate all of these markets overnight. High margin expectations works very well at controlling the volatile "less-than-ten-dollar" stocks from going completely haywire, because you cannot buy them on margin without supplying a large percentage of capital up front.

Time for a market change. I think that 10 years ago, we didn't have to worry about putting in these types of restrictions in commodities, because hardly any small or individual players were in them. Now that they are all computerized and easy to access by anyone with a discount brokerage account, the system has been broken.

In the late 80's and early 90's, "curbs" were introduced into the markets because computerized trading led to the stock market crash of '87. Looks to me like computers, easy "democratized" access, and large money movement from institutional traders who lost billions in the financial industry recently, have combined to form a perfect storm for a broken commodities market.

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Cramer: The Oil Market Is Broken

Jim Cramer

06/10/08 - 05:23 PM EDT

This column was first published on RealMoney at 2:04 p.m., June 10, 2008. For more commentary on today's action from the RealMoney writers, click here for a free trial.

Every market's so thin here and so easily pushed around by derivatives and aggressive buying and selling that it's hard to trust any prices. Does anyone believe that some large buyer of oil paid up $10 the other day? Does anyone think that a major airline or a energy user came in and said, "Buy 200,000 barrels of oil with a $10 limit"?

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Monday, April 14, 2008

Gasoline Production Being Reduced By Refineries

This is not good news for those who have been watching the gasoline market. Refineries are lowering production of America's lifeblood - gasoline. Forget the credit crunch, this squeeze will have the same effects, or worse, as a slowed money supply. See the story below, and keep reading:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12400801

There are some things you can do. For instance, I learned that due to chemical reasons and physical laws such as vapors in liquids, temperature differences, and the effects that different pour rates can have in relation to this, if you "pour" or pump your gas slower, it will increase the amount of gasoline you get while decreasing the amount of vapors that end up in your tank. This significantly increases your gas mileage. I have tested it over the last 2 weeks and had spectacular results. My car is rated at 25 MPG city, and 30 MPG highway. I have been getting 36 MPG!

You can also use reverse supply tactics. Why put money in the oil company's bank accounts when you can keep it in yours. Just buy a half tank of gas when you fill up. If the entire country were to do this (basically ration themselves creating "game theory -like" results), the daily gasoline supplies and reserves would increase, almost overnight. Fill trucks would have to go out and fill stations much less. This would then cause a reaction from the gasoline companies, who have to pay to store large quantities of gasoline, to sell it at a cheaper rate to generate cash flow and revenues, and to get rid of increasing stockpiles of gasoline (retailers reverse supply or use reverse logistics all the time. What do you think happens to the products you return to the store? They are sold at a discount later. Filling a half tank of gas is like returning a half tank of gas at the same time). Secondary "discount" markets for gasoline would rise due to the fact that the supply chain would be broken at the endpoint - the pump - as less gasoline would be pumped daily (a half tank would be "returned"). Can you imagine the day when stations have a 15% off sale to get people to the pump? Then let's make it happen!

See the following for some basics on supply chains:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply_chain_management

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_logistics

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transaction_cost

Also, knowing you will only have a half tank of gas before your next fill-up (the next time you will have to spend actual money) will also make you think twice about driving someplace. You can also do a "gas budget" where you pay attention to how many miles it takes to get somewhere. Then figure out the cost of the gasoline it took. This will help you realize the cost of your day to day activities, and help you budget your gasoline expenditures.

Ensure full inflation of your tires every time you fill. And don't use gas company credit cards. They make lots of money in interest each time you do.

Buy non-middle eastern oil. Nearly every domestic oil well has been uncapped recently due to the potential revenues that can be generated with oil over $100 a barrel. When I was in Texas 4 years ago, many farmers had oil wells that were capped off, awaiting better times for oil. This is not the case anymore. As a farmer, if you can pump just 10 barrels in a day, you'll add about $30,000 a month to your bottom line these days. So help support our country's oil supply by buying domestic oil. A quick google search will tell you who the domestic companies are.

Invest stocks in Natural Gas companies, and then buy a natural gas car. A nat gas car costs about $8 to fill which gets you about 350 miles. With oil as expensive as it is, Natural Gas demand is going up, and so are the stocks of the companies who produce it.

Open a business, and use your trips for business purposes to write of gasoline taxes.

Send this to your friends. I hope it helps!

Tijs

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Friday, March 14, 2008

McCain and Romney Teams Joining Forces?

All,

This press release says that Meg Whitman will be joining McCain's team as National Co-Chairperson. Is this the lead-in to a McCain - Romney ticket?

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Thursday, January 10, 2008

Re: Huckabee and McCain??

Here is what I would like to see happen:

Romney winning Michigan, because Michigan is not a "retail politics" state and takes Airwave, print, and mail media to win.

Romney performing at least strongly in SC, and letting McCain and Huckberry get in a fight. So far the only fighting we have seen has involved Mitt as one of the parties.

Romney winning Nevada. I think Nevada will be key for Romney having a chance to get California's vote on Super Tuesday. Cali has 173 delegates, and is winner takes all.

Michigan has 30 proportional delegates (after the RNC Penalty) and Nevada has 38 proportional delegates (no penalty as Nevada is a Caucus. If Romney gets 40% in each state, he would come out of them with about 30 or so delegates, more than is even possible in SC, which is 24 proportional.

Romney winning Florida, beating Giuli, which will help propel his campaign in Texas and New York. Florida has 57 delegates, and it is winner takes all. Texas and New York are both winner takes all.

You can pretty well guarantee two states, Utah which has 38 delegates with winner takes all, and Idaho with 32 proportional delegates. And I think Colorado Montana would fall in line as well. Colorado is a Caucus with 46 delegates, and Montana gets 25 with an advisory primary.

Tijs

On Jan 10, 2008 5:58 PM, Nevin Limburg <Nevin.Limburg@wvc-ut.gov> wrote:

Chris Mathews is right on, and I like him a lot more than so many of the others, after seeing him moderate the Republican debate last Sunday in NH.

Nevin

>>> "Bruce Gundersen" < bruceg@chpdc.com> 1/10/2008 5:37 PM >>>
They said that Romney was running scared, tired of the fight and going to
let McCain and Huckabee fight for a while and put everything into Michigan
because if he did not win there, he is finished.

They are so far off, and They are afraid of him.

Chris Mathews said earlier that Romney was the guy the Demos were afraid of
more than anyone because he had it all, values, smarts and experience.

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Cc: dmx311@gmail.com; ralph@morasi.com; keeslimburg@myldsmail.net
Subject: RE: Huckabee and McCain??

Interesting. thanks guys for keeping me informed and up to date. Keep it
up!

Nevin

Nevin Limburg, CEcD
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Economic Development / Redevelopment Agency West Valley City, Utah
Office: 801-963-3322
cell: 801-232-0542
Cell: 801-232-0542
Nevin.Limburg@wvc-ut.gov

>>> "Bruce Gundersen" <bruceg@chpdc.com> 1/10/2008 5:29 PM >>>
The report I just heard on MSNBC was that Romney has now pulled all his
staff out of S Carolina.

-----Original Message-----
From: Nevin Limburg [mailto:Nevin.Limburg@wvc-ut.gov]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 5:23 PM
To: Tijs Limburg; Garth Limburg
Cc: bruceg@chpdc.com; dmx311@gmail.com; ralph@morasi.com;
keeslimburg@myldsmail.net
Subject: Re: Huckabee and McCain??

He could still take S Carolina, if he takes Michigan. His strategy now to
put everything into MI is a good one. He must and he will beat McCain
there, who won Michigan in 2000 over Bush, then Bush beat him in S Carolina
and it was downhill then after that for Bush.

The first shots of the "Rebellion" to start the Civil War were from S
Carolina. Romney could come into S Carolina on a wave after Michigan and be
the rebel who steals a victory over Huck and Mc.

Am I dreaming? For Mitt, always, but with faith and hope mixed in.

Nevin

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Tuesday, December 04, 2007

Merry Christmas

Hi Family and friends,

Being the political junkey that I am, and loving the Christ in Christmas, I hope you will enjoy this old time favorite Christmas poem.

Nevin

"We should be too big to take offense, and too noble to give it."

Abraham Lincoln

Nevin Limburg, CEcD
Business Development Manager
Economic Development / Redevelopment Agency
West Valley City, Utah
Office: 801-963-3322

cell: 801-232-0542

Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 08:54:25 -0800
From: winbroadhurst@yahoo.com
Subject: Fwd: FW: Merry Christmas
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MERRY CHRISTMAS! MERRY CHRISTMAS! MERRY CHRISTMAS!

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Subject: FW: Merry Christmas
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 15:05:11 +0000
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Subject: Merry Christmas
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 03:07:39 +0000
----- Original Message -----

MERRY CHRISTMAS!!! This is very creative!!

Rhonda

Subject: Merry Christmas

T'was the month before Christmas

'Twas the month before Christmas

When all through our land,

Not a Christian was praying

Nor taking a stand.

See the PC Police had taken away,

The reason for Christmas - no one could say.

The children were told by their schools not to sing,

About Shepherds and Wise Men and Angels and things.

It might hurt people's feelings, the teachers would say

December 25th is just a 'Holiday.'

Yet the shoppers were ready with cash, checks and credit

Pushing folks down to the floor just to get it!

CDs from Madonna, an X BOX, an I-pod

Something was changing, something quite odd!

Retailers promoted Ramadan and Kwanza

In hopes to sell books by Franken & Fonda.

As Targets were hanging their trees upside down

At Lowe's the word Christmas - was no where to be found.

At K-Mart and Staples and Penney's and Sears

You won't hear the word Christmas; it won't touch your ears.

Inclusive, sensitive, Di-ver-si-ty

Are words that were used to intimidate me.

Now Daschle, Now Darden, Now Sharpton, Wolf Blitzen

On Boxer, on Rather, on Kerry, on Clinton!

At the top of the Senate, there arose such a clatter

To eliminate Jesus, in all public matter.

And we spoke not a word, as they took away our faith

Forbidden to speak of salvation and grace.

The true Gift of Christmas was exchanged and discarded

The reason for the season, stopped before it started.

So as you celebrate 'Winter Break' under your 'Dream Tree'

Sipping your Starbucks, listen to me.

Choose your words carefully, choose what you say

Shout MERRY CHRISTMAS, not Happy Holiday!

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Sunday, November 25, 2007

Hello

Dear friend,

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The doctor has advised me that I may not live for more than Six months and that it is only by the power of God [Allah] that can determine my life span, so I now decided to divide part of this wealth, to contribute to the development of the less privileged and poor in Africa, America, Asia and Europe.

I selected you after visiting the website and I prayed over it, I am willing to donate the sum of $1.5000,000.00 Million U.S Dollars to you for the less privileged. Please I want you to note that, this fund is lying in a security Firm and upon my instruction, you will file in an application for the transfer of the money in your name. Am currently here in Africa receiving treatment and the fund is also in a security company here.

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I await your response.

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Wednesday, November 14, 2007

FW: RUDY IN TROUBLE WITHOUT IOWA WIN

Garth, Eric, and Tijis,

Morris shows his true bias against Romney in this article. I am sick of it. He says, "Romney doesn't have a chance in hell to beat Hillary." That only means to me that Morris has been there, to hell. How can we stop this dope? Please in the article do your vote by newsmax. And give me your opinions, please. It is a credit to Romney that he has good leads in Iowa, NH, and Michigan, and tied now in So Carolina. Hillary "chewing him up and spitting him out"? Are you kidding me? He doesn't know Mitt Romney.

Nevin

"We should be too big to take offense, and too noble to give it."

Abraham Lincoln

Nevin Limburg, CEcD
Business Development Manager
Economic Development / Redevelopment Agency
West Valley City, Utah
Office: 801-963-3322

cell: 801-232-0542

Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:55:52 -0600
To: nevinlimburg@hotmail.com
From: dickmorrisreports@dickmorris.com
Subject: RUDY IN TROUBLE WITHOUT IOWA WIN

RUDY IN TROUBLE WITHOUT IOWA WIN

By DICK MORRIS

Published on TheHill.com on November 14, 2007.

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Even as he continues to hold a convincing lead in the national race, Rudy Giuliani may be riding for a big fall in Iowa and the other early state primaries. Mitt Romney, despite his anemic national showing, could sweep Iowa, New Hampshire and Michigan, a trifecta that could give him s uch momentum as to sweep him to the nomination.

The numbers are scary for Giuliani (and since Mitt doesn't have a prayer in hell of beating Hillary in a general election, scary for us all). While he holds a lead in the national polls (Giuliani 30, Thompson 17, McCain 15, Romney 12, Huckabee 9 — all data is from the average of the past five polls posted on www.realclearpolitics.com), he is trailing badly in all the early states.

In Iowa, the first caucus, it's Romney 29, Huckabee 15, Giuliani 13, Thompson 12, McCain 8. And New Hampshire isn't much better. There it's Romney also in the lead with 32 percent, Rudy a distant second at 21 percent, McCain at 16 percent, Huckabee at 7 percent and Thompson at 5 percent. And Michigan, which might be just a few days after New Hampshire, shows Romney also in the lead at 25 percent with Rudy at 20 percent.

So what will happen to Giuliani if he loses Iowa, New Hampshire and Michigan? South Carolina, the most conservative state in the nation, won't be a stopper for him (he currently is tied with Romney at 19 percent, with Thompson at 18 percent). If he loses the first three contests, he'll get creamed there.

The question will then become: Can Florida hold for Rudy? Right now, he has a comfortable 33-16 lead over Romney, but how will his candidacy fare after four straight crushing defeats?

Rudy has brought this crisis on himself by foolishly running no television ads in any of the early primary or caucus states while Romney has advertised for six to eight months. In a classic hare-versus-tortoise scenari o, Giuliani waited so long to show his colors on television that Romney may have built up an insurmountable lead in the interim.

Rudy could still bounce back in Iowa if he gets his act together there and at least make it close. More possible would be for Huckabee, who has been surging with no money, to close with Romney and win in Iowa. Mike's consistent pro-life position contrasts sharply with Mitt's flip-flop-flip on the issue and could propel Huckabee ahead of Romney, particularly in light of the former Arkansas governor's announcement that he is going to spend $1 million on Iowa ads.

But if Romney wins in Iowa, he will certainly win in New Hampshire — where he already leads — and in Michigan, where his father was governor and he has been working hard. Coming into Florida with that kind of momentum will make it very hard for Giuliani to come back.

But not impossible. National front-runners like Rudy and Hillary can survi ve shocks along the road, recover their balance and go on to win. Bill Clinton lost New Hampshire in 1992 and George W. Bush lost it in 2000, but each ended up doing pretty well. A candidate who is back in the polls usually can be knocked out by an adverse result in an early caucus or primary. But a front-runner usually has to be defeated one state at a time in dozens of states to be upended.

Republicans might recover their senses in time and realize that with Hillary on the ballot for the Democrats (most likely) it is no time to experiment with America's tolerance and see if a Mormon can be elected president. With only 36 percent of the nation's voters saying one can prevail, it would be an uphill fight. Is this truly the year the GOP wants to be saddled with a latter-day version of Al Smith in 1928? More to the point, Hillary would eat alive and spit out Romney by attacking his total inexperience in foreign policy and his current pro-life position. She won't even need the anti-Mormon bigots to beat him.

So Republicans might pause to reconsider what they are about to do before they hand Romney the nomination. But with the extremely short lead time between Iowa and the rest of the nation's primaries, who knows if there is enough time to stem such momentum? GOP Internet Primary Starts Now . . . Vote Today - Go Here Now!

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Sunday, November 11, 2007

This Prayer

"We should be too big to take offense, and too noble to give it."

Abraham Lincoln

Nevin Limburg, CEcD

This Pastor Has Guts

and may the Good Lord Bless his ministries

It seems prayer still upsets some
people. Please read....

WhenMinister Joe Wright was asked to open the new session of the Kansas
Senate, everyone was expecting the usual generalities, but this
is what they heard;

"Heavenly Father,
We come before you today
to ask for your forgiveness and
to seek your direction and guidance.
We know Your Word says,
"Woe to those who call evil good"
But that is exactly what we have done.
We have lost our spiritual equilibrium
and reversed our values.
We have exploited the poor
And called it the lottery.
We have rewarded laziness
And called it welfare.
We have killed our unborn
and called it choice.
We have shot abortionists
and called it justifiable.
We have neglected to discipline our children
And called it building self esteem.
We have abused power
And called it politics.
We have coveted our neighbor's Possessions
and called it ambition.
We have polluted the air with profanity and Pornography
and called it Freedom of speech and expression.
We have ridiculed the time Honored values of our Forefathers
and called it enlightenment.
Search us, Oh, God,
And know our hearts today;
Cleanse us from every sin
And set us free.
Amen!"

The response was immediate. A number of legislators walked out
during the prayer in protest.
In 6 short weeks, Central Christian Church, where Rev. Wright is pastor,
logged more than 5,000 phone calls with only 47 of those calls
responding negatively.

The church is now receiving international requests
for copies of this prayer from India , Africa and Korea .
Commentator Paul Harvey aired this prayer on his radio Program, "The
Rest of the Story," and received a larger response to this program than
any other he has ever aired.
With the Lord's help, may this prayer sweep over our Nation and
wholeheartedly become our desire so that we again can be called

"One Nation Under God."

Wednesday, November 07, 2007

VERY URGENT

Dear Friend,
I am Mrs. Lioc Joseph Estrada, wife of the ex President of the Philippines located in South East Asia.
My husband was elected President of the Philippines in 1998. He is the 13th president of the republic from June 30, 1998 to January 20, 2001.
Ousted on January 20 2001 as Philippine President in a bloodless people's revolt that came to be known as Edsa II. The revolution was sparked by the accusation of his close buddy, Ilocos Sur governor Chavit Singson on October of 2000 that he was receiving bribe money from illegal gambling.
My husband was impeached from office on November of 2000 by the Philippine Congress,
led by then-House Speaker Manuel 'Manny' Villar who was later elected as a Philippine Senator, for corruption and bribery.My husband's trial in the Senate was marred on January 16 2001 when pro-administration senators blocked the presentation of key piece of evidence, leading to protests in Manila and other major cities that led to the fall of my husband government.
On April 2001 (three months after vacating the Malacanang), My husband was arrested and imprisoned along with his my eldest son and then-San Juan Mayor Jinggoy for several counts of perjury and plunder. This detention triggered a series of protests that culminated in two events, the so-called (and much debated) Edsa III and the failed May 1 rebellion, where My husband supporters stormed Malacañang in a bid to oust current Philippine President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo.
presently (September 2007) After a trial that lasted six years, My husband was convicted of taking bribes and kickbacks while he was president of the Philippines. He was sentenced to life in prison, and ordered to forfeit a mansion and more than 15 million dollars.
During my husband's regime as president of Philippines, I realized some reasonable amount of money from various deals that I successfully executed. I have plans to invest this money for my children's future, I secretly siphoned the sum of (Thirty million United states dollars) out of Philippines and deposited the funds with a Security firm that transports valuable goods and such deposits (consignment) through diplomatic means.
I am contacting you to assist me claim these funds on my behalf from the security company since I have declared that the consignment belongs to my foreign business partner. You shall also be required to assist me in investment in your country. I sincerely hope that you are a trustworthy person who will not sit on these funds after claim, rather than assist me properly.
I expect you to declare what percentage of the total fund you will take for your assistance.
When I receive your positive response; you will receive the contact details of my representative designate who will guide you and furnish you with details of how this transaction will be commenced and brought to fruition with details of the security company, all necessary documents that will be obtained and the release pin code which is imperative to claim of the funds.
For now, let all our communication be via e-mail or fax because my phone lines are all under taps as connected to the Philippines Telecommunication Network services which the government is monitoring closely.
Please, furnish me with your telephone and fax numbers, to enable my representative designate contact you with more details as soon as I receive your much anticipated response with the email address as thus:
( mrsjliocestrada@aol.com )
Fax Number: 0063-2-857-2217
Yours sincerely,
Mrs. Lioc Estrada.

Monday, November 05, 2007

RE: My Utes Marvel on my screen & the fun begins

That would take the Cougs getting past TCU this Thursday, (37-0) Saturday against New Mex., then the Cowboys in LaVelle's favorite place, Laramie, then Utah, where the Utes are 5 of 6 the last six times in Provo, then SDSU, which beat Wyo on Saturday. Tough Order! Cougs beat CSU Saturday by 16 at home, Utah beat them in Colorado by 24. Shaping up to be a great game November 24th. I cheer for BYU to win all their games except the one with Utah. But picking? I give the Y a 5-1 mark in the conference going into the Utah game, and the Utes 5-2, and when Utah wins there, the Utes tie with BYU for the title, but get the first place nod having beaten BYU, so likely get to go to the wonderful big bowl in Vegas. Very Possible! Then the Y beats SDSU and ends up 8-4 for the season and gets another wonderful Poinsetta or Armed Forces Bowl. What say ye?

"We should be too big to take offense, and too noble to give it."

Abraham Lincoln

Nevin Limburg, CEcD
Business Development Manager
Economic Development / Redevelopment Agency
West Valley City, Utah
Office: 801-963-3322

cell: 801-232-0542

> Subject: Re: My Utes Marvel on my screen
> From: jimmiechesh@myldsmail.net
> To: nevinlimburg@hotmail.com
> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 21:33:29 +0000
>
> try 10-2 (8-0) back to back years.
>
> GO COUGS
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nevin Limburg <nevinlimburg@hotmail.com>
> To: Tijs Limburg <tijis311@gmail.com>, Eric Limburg <dmx311@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:55:32 -0600
> Subject: My Utes Marvel on my screen
>
>
> Agreed, Nephew. It is already my screensaver at work. Go Utes! 5-0 streak. 9-3 season! Whit the coach of the year! Mack first string all conference running back! Tate first string! Sukoda All American! Beadles first string pancake man! and the list goes on.......Uncle Nevin
> Nevin Limburg, CEcDBusiness Development ManagerEconomic Development / Redevelopment AgencyWest Valley City, UtahOffice: 801-963-3322
> cell: 801-232-0542
>
>
> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 08:11:08 -0600From: tijis311@gmail.comTo: dmx311@gmail.comSubject: Re: Happy HalloweenCC: achatelain@siretechnologies.com; AlphaAlumni@googlegroups.com; amber.tuckness@granite.k12.ut.us; andrewhmaximus@hotmail.com; annashton77@yahoo.com; bvanderlinden@co.summit.ut.us; bjvan75@gmail.com; brandags@brandags.com; bcharles22@gmail.com; bclark23@gmail.com; hillierhln@yahoo.com; Kim.Cheshire@va.gov; elliotclark@hotmail.com; j.nunez@utah.edu; jimmiechesh@myldsmail.net; janeclark56@hotmail.com; jasonlefler1@gmail.com; joel.ertel@gmail.com; karchatl11@yahoo.com; jlcheshire1@hotmail.com; materngary@hotmail.com; matt@starboundrecords.com; beaner230112@yahoo.com; megyat@yahoo.com; nyrmmike@yahoo.com; rmnate@yahoo.com; nskanchy@gmail.com; nevinlimburg@hotmail.com; nikkers2000@yahoo.com; owenclark@netzero.net; r.e.schmitty@gmail.com; stait@aero-graphics.com; Shane.Clark@va.gov; sistalimburg@myldsmail.net; tedashton@stcdigital.com; jobrahms@hotmail.com; garth.limburg@slcgov.com; bruceg@chpdc.com
> Dude, that is AWESOME! I set it as my background at work...to add to our very halloween atmosphere we have right now.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tijs
> On 10/31/07, Eric Limburg <dmx311@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hope "U" all have a Happy Halloween! (see attached picture)
>
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Friday, November 02, 2007

FW: Evangelicals are Rallying Support for Romney

Dear Family and Friends,

I am passing this one along to you, because I think it is the best endorsement letter I have seen yet in this important presidential election. Please take a look at it and then if you feel so inclined, pass it on to others.

With love and friendship,

Nevin Limburg

Nevin Limburg, CEcD
Business Development Manager
Economic Development / Redevelopment Agency
West Valley City, Utah
Office: 801-963-3322

cell: 801-232-0542

Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 08:30:05 -0600
From: tijis311@gmail.com
To: garth.limburg@ci.slc.ut.us; dmx311@gmail.com; nevinlimburg@hotmail.com; bcharles22@gmail.com
Subject: Evangelicals are Rallying Support for Romney

Here is a letter addressed to Conservative & Evangelical Leaders from Mark DeMoss urging them to consider Romney for President. I read the entire letter, and I think it is well written and can't come at a better time for Mitt, with less than 100 days until the primary elections:

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/politics/demoss_memo.pdf

Pass this one on.

Tijs Limburg

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